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We are fans of Sonic the Hedgehog, who take a less positive view of the Archie Comics-produced adaptation of the series, and sepnd some time every now and then casting a more critical, analytical eye over it and its many quirks and foibles. We are quite happy to welcome criticism and discussion on any of our threads, as long as they're not too old. We only ask that you treat our views with respect, and we shall do the same for you.

Rules & Regulations
(These are subject to editing, based on whether they work in practice and seem fair or not)

:bulletred: We are critics, not blind haters and trolls.

:bulletyellow: Alternate fancomics, fanfictions, and generally your own take on the Archie universe are welcome!

:bulletblue: Anything not relating to the Sonic franchise is not welcome, however, and Sonic-related art should preferrably be Archie-based/related.

:bulletgreen: Michael Gallagher, Ken Penders, Karl Bollers, and Ian Flynn are not the Horsemen of the Apocalypse. They are just mediocre-at-best writers. Similarly, the other continuities are not perfect examples of storytelling. If you have trouble viewing these authors as people, this may be a bad place for you.

:bulletred: We are focused on the storytelling, characterization, etc, of the comic.

:bulletyellow: We do not discuss the lawsuit without acknowledging that it was Archie's fault and Penders made it worse.

:bulletblue: No personal attacks, threats, or anything of the sort against the writers.

:bulletgreen: No trolling/spam on Bumbleking, or the artists' DA pages. That just makes us seem like fumbling idiots, and activity of this kind will be investigated and appropriate action will be taken.

:bulletred: No character hate art. Criticizing the characters is a-okay, as long as it's clear that it is the fault of the writers, not the character. We're not the Anti-Sally-Sue club, we're better than that.

:bulletyellow: Try to justify your arguments with valid reasons and evidence, or at least basic series logic.

:bulletblue: No holding up other continuities, especially SEGA, as the pure and perfect gospel of Sonic. Let's not forget that while Archie created 172 and the Mecha Sally arc, SEGA created Sonic 06 and endorsed Sonic X.

:bulletgreen: Have a point to your arguments, and try not to post something that you know is only going to piss Archie fans off without raising any issues. It will likely be just as aggravating to everyone within the group who actually have solid arguments.

:bulletred: Members have three strikes. Crossing the line three times will result in expulsion.

:bulletyellow: Communication between the Admins may result in promotions or demotions, based on conduct.

:bulletblue: Don't block someone just because they're arguing with you. A group like ours is bound to insight arguments and flamewars, and Archie fans are welcome to argue with us if they choose.

:bulletblack: Most importantly: Respect the opinions of others. Just because you hate Archie, doesn't necessarily mean that others will do.
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Founded 5 Years ago
Nov 20, 2011

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Group Focus
Archie Sonic

129 Members
179 Watchers
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Welcome to Anti-Archie-Sonic, a group dedicated - if somewhat haphazardly - to identifying flaws in the current Archie Sonic Comics and examining them in a variety of ways.

Group Folder Scheme:
Featured - Artwork or literature we on the admin team particularly think stands out or is of good quality.
Criticisms & Discussions about Ian Flynn - Pieces specifically pertaining to the current Archie writer, Ian Flynn.
Criticisms & Discussions about SEGA - Due to their influence through product ownership and production mandates, this section is reserved for discussions regarding SEGA and their activities in relation to the comic.
Criticisms & Discussions about previous writers - Pieces pertaining to past Archie writers, Ken Penders, Karl Bollers, and Mike Gallagher.
Other Archie Discussions & Rants - For topical information that doesn't necessarily involve one writer, and more the concepts and ideas surrounding Archie comics.
Anti-Archie Sonic Comics - Visual novels and ideas for such that involve Archie characters or concepts.
Alternate Archie Sonic Fanfiction - Specifically literature in various forms that involve Archie characters or concepts.
Anti-Hate Character Art - While characters are responsible for their actions they cannot be blamed for incorrect or unfair portrayal, and so this folder is for artwork looking at preventing character hate.
Stamps - What it says on the tin; stamps relating to Anti-Archie concepts.
Misc. - Anything that doesn't really fit the above categories for some reason.
Authentic Arguments - An experimental idea I'm implementing, this is a folder where members can submit discussions and relevant talks about Archie Sonic from pro-comic speakers, provided they have a valid point or present them well, so we can account for these things and better understand the situation.

So, that's the way things work here. Simple enough, right?

~Therix

Founder





Gallery Folders

Featured
Criticisms and Discussions of Ian Flynn
Criticisms and Discussions about SEGA
Other Archie Sonic Discussions and Rants
MM: List ofThings Wrong With Archie Sonic's Reboot by Mixedfan8643
Anti-Archie Sonic Comics

Mature Content

LOST HEDGEHOG TALES by WaniRamirez
Anti-hate Character Art
Downunda Freedom Fighters by RoyalThebat
Not All Change Is Good by DARKZADAR-0
[Sonic Archie Comics] Elias Acorn by mizusawa-yuki
Fiona Fox *Reformed * by ThatBlue-Bolt
Stamps
Archie Sonic is not a substitute for the games by Vertekins
Archie Should Stop Making Sonic Comics by NatouMJSonic
Any fan has the right to dislike Archie Sonic by Vertekins
Archie in a nutshell by VioletLIGER
Misc
Not so different? by ToaArcan
Authentic Arguments

Random from Featured

This is art that sadly cannot be in our group's main galleries due to unfortunate circumstances.

Stamps and Stuff

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After :icontoaarcan:’s brief explanation on why Gemerl’s worfing does not even work from the perspective of being worfed I feel that there is another thing that needs to be looked at. The two characters that rescued him, Big the Cat and Cream the Rabbit. For reasons I cannot comprehend, and I have honestly tried to think of valid reasons, these two are Freedom Fighters even though they really should not be. I know this is not a popular opinion but I do not believe they should be Freedom Fighters nor are they even fit to be Freedom Fighters.

I’m going to start with Big and not mince words, he is mentally handicapped or at least reboot!Archie him is. In 269 Big had a bowl of popcorn land on his with no reaction not even eating any of it nor a change of expression, in 278 he did not know the word “spoilsport” and thought Antoine was referring to an actual sport and in 281 he drank fish sauce, things that most people would know not to do. In this series so far in the reboot the Freedom Fighters are as of the current issues not a group of insurgents trying to fight a tyrannical dictator but rather a legitimate military unit. As such not only do they not have to accept everyone who knocks on their door it is arguable that it irresponsible for the Freedom Fighters to let Big join them. Big does not even have any skills to add to the team other than super strength which they already get from Bunnie who is a lot more mobile than him. Also he really does look lifeless and all his action scenes looks very stilted.

Cream does not even have that as she is just a child, not even a child with any specials skills like Tails. She has no fighting experience and is a pacifist. Her fighting consists of telling Cheese to fight people which somehow works. Well we don’t know how powerful Chao are but still seems unlikely. And here is the big thing, why in the name of every deity ever did the FF let an ordinary six-year-old join them? Cream has shown no demonstrable special skills at all. She can fly but so can Tails and Bunnie who are respectively super intelligent and super strong and have actual fighting experience. Even then it is shown she tires out easily probably because she is freaking six. Big can at least punch stuff but Cream has nothing to contribute as she doesn’t have any real intellectual or people skills either.

Even ignoring all this, even if we could come with reasons for this I want to ask you all one question. Both in and out of universe what do they add to the Freedom Fighters? What do they even add in either skills or character/personality? If you have an answer I’d honestly like to hear it.
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:icontakahashiakira:
TakahashiAkira Featured By Owner 9 hours ago  Student Digital Artist
Archie, I knew from the very beginning that you were not worthy of the license to SEGA's beloved franchise at all. Give the rights to Viz Media instead!
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revilnemesis3 Featured By Owner 5 hours ago
Does Viz even make any comics?
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TakahashiAkira Featured By Owner 5 hours ago  Student Digital Artist
I mean, Shogakukan could've continued the Sonic manga that was running in one of their school magazines for children and Viz would've been granted the license to translate the manga from Japanese into English at that time.
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revilnemesis3 Featured By Owner 2 hours ago
I've read the Sonic manga and imo that would not have been a good idea. Archie might have been bad but the manga was a whole different level.
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:iconakessel92:
akessel92 Featured By Owner Edited 6 hours ago
How so from your perspective?
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:iconlaviarray:
LaviArray Featured By Owner Sep 3, 2016  Hobbyist Digital Artist
So quiet on here...
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:icontoaarcan:
ToaArcan Featured By Owner Sep 4, 2016  Hobbyist Writer
I'm burned out at the moment. I'll get back to reviewing comics soonish.
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FunnelVortex Featured By Owner Sep 4, 2016  Hobbyist Writer
Well there's been nothing notable to discuss recently. So far this year the comic has been mundane as far as interesting things go.
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:iconakessel92:
akessel92 Featured By Owner Sep 4, 2016
*smashes through glass*
Or maybe people are busy cause college classes are restarting back up.
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:iconmixedfan8643:
Mixedfan8643 Featured By Owner Sep 4, 2016  Hobbyist Filmographer
Maybe the comic's so bad that it's not even worth talking about anymore. :shrug:
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:iconlaviarray:
LaviArray Featured By Owner Sep 4, 2016  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Welp, I might be able to fix that in a bit.
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:iconmixedfan8643:
Mixedfan8643 Featured By Owner Sep 5, 2016  Hobbyist Filmographer
What have you got in mind?
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Kingriver Featured By Owner Aug 24, 2016
So, the latest lawsuit just reached the mainstream media: nypost.com/2016/08/07/comic-bo…
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:iconfortuneteller102:
Fortuneteller102 Featured By Owner Aug 18, 2016  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Spoiler Alert: They're basically rushing the finale of the Shattered World Arc. Makes you question why they were even building it up to begin with.
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akessel92 Featured By Owner Aug 20, 2016
Dude scanF really?!
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Kingriver Featured By Owner Aug 20, 2016
They do? Another hint the comics in danger. 
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akessel92 Featured By Owner Aug 18, 2016
To those whom I have wronged. I apologize for everything
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:iconrevilnemesis3:
revilnemesis3 Featured By Owner Aug 19, 2016
If you want to debate you're free to do so.
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revilnemesis3 Featured By Owner Aug 18, 2016
I can only speak for myself in this case but I accept your apology and hope that fate smiles upon your future.
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Mixedfan8643 Featured By Owner Aug 16, 2016  Hobbyist Filmographer
You know what guys? It's almost embarrassing to see just how immature some Archie Sonic fans can be.

I've got akessel98 shitting about my "Things Wrong With Archie Sonic Reboot" list on tumblr now, presumably just so he can get people to hate on me.

And they think you guys are immature. This club is nuanced and sophisticated in comparison to the fans! Hell, I'm actually agreeing that the haters are more mature than the fans right now!

I'm almost embarrassed to admit I used to be an Archie Sonic fan now because of dicks like him and his tumblr followers...:no:
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Channeleven Featured By Owner Aug 21, 2016  Hobbyist Photographer
Stuff like that further proves why I'm not fond of the Archie Sonic fandom. A bulk of the fans can't stand it when something negative isnsaidnabout the comics (in this case, I mean in general, not sure if akessel gave a sincere apology yet). It's like the concept of an outside opinion doesn't exist.
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Mixedfan8643 Featured By Owner Aug 27, 2016  Hobbyist Filmographer
You're telling me. 
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Channeleven Featured By Owner Aug 27, 2016  Hobbyist Photographer
Yep.
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